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theatlantic:

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World

The uproar over a 14-minute anti-Islam YouTube video has sparked furious protests from Somalia to Egypt to Sudan to Tunisia to Libya to Bangladesh to Indonesia to Pakistan. With new reports of protests surfacing every minute, we’ve compiled the latest reported incidents into this interactive Google Map.

[Images: Reuters/Google Maps]

All those millions of Islamic “misunderstanders”. Anyone who points this out must be a Islamophobe i guess…
-FA

theatlantic:

A Map of Muslim Protests Around the World

The uproar over a 14-minute anti-Islam YouTube video has sparked furious protests from Somalia to Egypt to Sudan to Tunisia to Libya to Bangladesh to Indonesia to Pakistan. With new reports of protests surfacing every minute, we’ve compiled the latest reported incidents into this interactive Google Map.

[Images: Reuters/Google Maps]

All those millions of Islamic “misunderstanders”. Anyone who points this out must be a Islamophobe i guess…

-FA

Maybe in 50 years, there will be no surprise when the loudest cheerleaders for Muslim presidential candidates and Supreme Court justices are evangelical Christians.

My Take: How evangelicals could grow to love Muslims – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Of course no one with an ounce of common sense will be surprised due to the fact that both religions hate gays, apostates, atheists, and treat women as subjects/dependent/inferior to men. Since they have so much in common it will be only a matter of time…

-FA

No. I won’t tag posts for them. Or anybody else. I’m not the one fasting nor do I think is a good idea anyway. Furthermore, I don’t respect their beliefs. Why should I respect myth, superstition and nonsense? What I do respect is people and the right they have to believe and practice what they may. But respect for them, respect for those rights go as far as my own rights start.
Are some Muslims offended by food on tumblr? They need to skip tumblr for a month. Why would anyone have to limit what they post, change their conduct, do specialty tags or do anything out of the ordinary to appease a nonsensical religious belief one does not share to begin with? Please…
What’s next? Ask non-muslims to refrain from drawing Muhammad ? Curtailing freedom of speech if it disrespects religion? How soon do we forget? Can’t we see the gross capitulation that is giving away our own freedoms under the false guise of religious respect? Sometimes so called “progressive” thinking becomes its own worst enemy. 
-FA

No. I won’t tag posts for them. Or anybody else. I’m not the one fasting nor do I think is a good idea anyway. Furthermore, I don’t respect their beliefs. Why should I respect myth, superstition and nonsense? What I do respect is people and the right they have to believe and practice what they may. But respect for them, respect for those rights go as far as my own rights start.

Are some Muslims offended by food on tumblr? They need to skip tumblr for a month. Why would anyone have to limit what they post, change their conduct, do specialty tags or do anything out of the ordinary to appease a nonsensical religious belief one does not share to begin with? Please…

What’s next? Ask non-muslims to refrain from drawing Muhammad ? Curtailing freedom of speech if it disrespects religion? How soon do we forget? Can’t we see the gross capitulation that is giving away our own freedoms under the false guise of religious respect? Sometimes so called “progressive” thinking becomes its own worst enemy. 

-FA

A response to the response to my response…

My answers in bold.

-beautifu-l answered you:

Hello.

Thank you very much for your response.

Your are welcome.

Even if Islam or any other religon did not exist, there would still be chaos in the world. There are thousands of pedophiles in the world and yet they are not blamed on their religon.

True. No one said all evil comes from religion. But that does not excuse the evil things that do come from it (or that are justified by it) nor does it liberate us from the responsibility of rejecting and fighting such. And yes, we do prosecute pedophiles legally. Sadly in Islamic countries religion protects such abominable conduct. Just like the Catholic clergy has done all over the world.

You need to realize that people use religon has a excuse.

Or as the following of divine commands. If god told you to sacrifice your first and only born child, would you do it? If the answer is no then, was Abraham wrong? If the answer is yes, how would that be different from god telling you to fly a plane into a skyscraper killing all inside? Would you do it? Yes? No? Why?

Polygamy is only allowed in Islam with the wife’s permission and believe it or not many women ALLOW and SUPPORT their husband getting a second wife.

And you think that makes it ok? Really? You reminded me of the following quote I posted not too long ago on this blog: “When you are born a woman in Afghanistan you’re taught to hate yourself”. How sad that religion, in your case, blinds you to such issues as equality and justice as it applies TO YOUR OWN GENDER.

Yes, the Prophet did have multiple wives but Prophet Mohammad was not the only one. Many Jewish and Christian Prophets have many wives so they could have heirs and spread the word of God.

And you think that justifies treating women as baby factories so “they could have heirs and spread the word of God”? Really? The “prophet” was wrong for doing as such, just as wrong these other Jewish and Christian “prophets”. And let’s not talk about slavery as it relates to the Abrahamic religions. It gets even worse. I wonder what other “justifications” (more like excuses) can the religious like you come up with. Don’t you see that the same renunciation of logic you use in defense of polygamy is the same one other believers in your own religion use to defend pedophilia, and suicide bombings among many other evils?

Prophet Mohammad married mostly widowed women. He would take care of them by giving them money, food, a home. He took care of their children and made sure that they had the best life possible.

I donate to charities that help widowed women and children in Africa. I don’t have to marry them, much less have sex with them. I don’t pay for sex. Much less trying to disguise such payments as “charity”. That is so despicable and misogynistic that it escapes description.

Islam is not the main reason for the blood shed in the Middle East. The West is.

Sure, because the Shia and the Sunni started to kill each other just a few years ago. Right? Because the Jews (believing they have a divine land deed to Palestine) and the Arabs have always been peaceful throughout history till recently. Right? All these conflicts predate the west. And that is just fact.

Who gave Saddam weapons to kill millions of Iraqis and Iranians? The West

I don’t condone violence in any way, shape or form. But the point is this: Muslims killing other Muslims. Where the weapons come from makes no difference. Is like blaming the bullet for the murder instead of the person that pulled the trigger.

Who supports Israel’s terror on the Palestinians and gives Israel millions of dollars? The West

Who supports Palestinian suicide bombers and gives terrorist groups the means to execute such operations? Islamic organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. And your point is? Again, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict predates the West. Again, study your history first.

Who did Osama Bin Laden used to work for? The West. In fact he used to be an ex Cia agent.

Bin Laden fought against the Soviets. “Working” for the West? Not so much. More like the enemy of my enemy is my friend type of deal. Fighting the Soviets who were invading Afghanistan. Law of unintended consequences I guess. The fact of the matter is that when the terrorists hit the towers their last words were “Allahu Akbhar”. Their expressed intentions were clear. Look them up.

All of the dictators in the world are because of the West.

Sure. Because the Iranian theocracy is a West created and established system. Because the cutting of hands for stealing, stoning for adultery and death for apostasy (as established in Sharia Law) is all the West’s doing. How the Saudis treat women or how they act in Indonesia is all due to the West. Because there were no dictators before what we called the modern West existed. Right?

And for one reason only - oil.

Sure. That is why invading Iraq was such a great idea an oil right now is at one dollar per gallon. Right? The cheapest in history no doubt.

If there were no oil in the West, there would be no hate against Muslims.

I don’t know about hate. I don’t hate Muslims. But I can tell you that the legitimate critiques I make in this blog are not dependent on oil. They are environmentally responsible. :-) Nor can they be construed as hate in any way, shape or form.

Ironically, all of the Muslim terrorists began the EXACT SAME time when oil was discovered, which was like 100 years ago.

Check your history. There is nothing more terrorizing than Sharia law (right next to the laws in the Old Testament). It predates oil btw. Just so you know.

And even so, are you justifying suicide bombings? I personally prefer the Gandhi/MLK method of effecting change.

The fact of the matter is that there are no suicide Jainist terrorists. The more radical you become as a Jainist the more peaceful and non violent you become. The same cannot be said of Islam. Any idea why?

In Islam, killing one person is killing the world. Suicide bombing is not allowed. Whoever commits suicide, for WHICHEVER reason, even in the name of “Allah”, will spend forever in the fires of hell.

As you interpret it. Some “scholars” using the same texts you believe to be holy have arrived to a different conclusion. So different that the result of suicide in the service of god is nothing less that a whole bunch of virgins (truly a more misogynistic depiction of heaven you will not find). The fact of the matter is that such texts are not holy and we should not depend on them to know what is right or wrong.

Look, fundamentalist are not crazy. They are not any less crazy than the moderates. Remember that moderate dogma is as equally unsupported by evidence as the extremist kind. The difference only lies in the terrible behavioral outcomes of one in comparison with the other.

The solution to those behavioral outcomes can only come from rejecting irrationality and promoting evidence on all fronts. Moderates don’t get a free pass. Fact is that moderation can and does breed extremism because both moderates and extremists share the same irrational mindset. It is not in atheist conventions where radicalization occurs, but in moderate mosques and churches all around the globe. Have you asked yourself why?

For more on this topic check out point 8 on my FAQ.

Please don’t think that all Muslims are terrorist.

Never said so. Never even thought that is the case.

I hope one day you will see Islam for the religion it truly is - not as religion of terror.

I see all religions for what they are. A rejection of reason and an affirmation of superstition. We have seen its effects. humanity has seen it for thousands of years now. 

Have a wonderful day.

You too.

May you and your family be blessed.

In reason always:
-FA

therevolutionweneed-deactivated asked:

"Aisha. Married her at 6 years old. Had sex with her at 9 years old." WHERE ON EARTH DID YOU HEAR THIS FROM? I'm a Muslim and your information is wrong. The prophet married her when Aisha was in her late 20s. You are an ignorant bastard. Learn Islam before you start bashing it, you fucking dumbass.

How sad. Muslims don’t know their own religion. Maybe if they did they wouldn’t be Muslims in the first place.

Here are some quotes from other fucking dumbasses, as described by shiawithin, that were closer to the events than me or anyone else today.

Sahih Muslim Book 008, Number 3310:
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated ‘Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65
Narrated ‘Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88 
Narrated ‘Ursa:
The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).

9 years old /= late 20s. Simple.
Is it a surprise then that child brides are so prevalent in muslim societies? Of course not. Funny how the “misunderstanders” of Islam are those that know the source material more intimately than anyone else.

In reason:
-FA

(via The Blog : Do We Have the Right to Burn the Koran? : Sam Harris)
The New York Times reported today that at least ten UN aid workers have been murdered by an Afghan mob.  This senseless savagery occurred in Mazar-i-Sharif, “one of the most  peaceful places in Afghanistan,” in response to news that a Florida  pastor, Terry Jones, finally made good on his threat to burn a copy of  the Koran. Pastor Jones and the members of his tiny congregation in  Gainesville appear to be religious crackpots of the first order, but  anyone tempted to condemn them for provoking this violence has lost the  plot. As I wrote previously in defense of the Dutch politician Geert  Wilders (“Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks”):

Wilders, like Westergaard and the other Danish  cartoonists, has been widely vilified for “seeking to inflame” the  Muslim community. Even if this had been his intention, this criticism  represents an almost supernatural coincidence of moral blindness and  political imprudence. The point is not (and will never be) that some  free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to  inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim  community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like  all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially  salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights  to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its  name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has,  more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.
There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position  of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be:  Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we will kill  you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as  nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say  that it isn’t, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what  our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies  or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you  primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies  criticizing you for “racism” and “Islamophobia.”

Will moderate Muslims defend Pastor Jones’s right to burn the Koran?

(via The Blog : Do We Have the Right to Burn the Koran? : Sam Harris)

The New York Times reported today that at least ten UN aid workers have been murdered by an Afghan mob. This senseless savagery occurred in Mazar-i-Sharif, “one of the most peaceful places in Afghanistan,” in response to news that a Florida pastor, Terry Jones, finally made good on his threat to burn a copy of the Koran. Pastor Jones and the members of his tiny congregation in Gainesville appear to be religious crackpots of the first order, but anyone tempted to condemn them for provoking this violence has lost the plot. As I wrote previously in defense of the Dutch politician Geert Wilders (“Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks”):

Wilders, like Westergaard and the other Danish cartoonists, has been widely vilified for “seeking to inflame” the Muslim community. Even if this had been his intention, this criticism represents an almost supernatural coincidence of moral blindness and political imprudence. The point is not (and will never be) that some free person spoke, or wrote, or illustrated in such a manner as to inflame the Muslim community. The point is that only the Muslim community is combustible in this way. The controversy over Fitna, like all such controversies, renders one fact about our world especially salient: Muslims appear to be far more concerned about perceived slights to their religion than about the atrocities committed daily in its name. Our accommodation of this psychopathic skewing of priorities has, more and more, taken the form of craven and blinkered acquiescence.

There is an uncanny irony here that many have noticed. The position of the Muslim community in the face of all provocations seems to be: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we will kill you. Of course, the truth is often more nuanced, but this is about as nuanced as it ever gets: Islam is a religion of peace, and if you say that it isn’t, we peaceful Muslims cannot be held responsible for what our less peaceful brothers and sisters do. When they burn your embassies or kidnap and slaughter your journalists, know that we will hold you primarily responsible and will spend the bulk of our energies criticizing you for “racism” and “Islamophobia.”

Will moderate Muslims defend Pastor Jones’s right to burn the Koran?

It is true that the guy that burned the Qu’ran is a fanatical extremist religious nutjob, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. Still, how is it his fault? Does killing innocent people is somehow justified because someone “insulted” your preferred myth and/or superstition? Of course not.
I hate the fact that I will have to agree with the author of the following quote but he has summarized the issue clearly.

Everyone seems to take it for granted that if Muslims are offended, they  will murder innocent people, and that instead of calling that  irrational violence what it is, we should take pains not to offend  Muslims, and blame those causing the alleged offense to the Muslims for  the irrational violence.-Source

Freedom of expression is non-negotiable. PERIOD.
In reason:-FA

It is true that the guy that burned the Qu’ran is a fanatical extremist religious nutjob, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. Still, how is it his fault? Does killing innocent people is somehow justified because someone “insulted” your preferred myth and/or superstition? Of course not.

I hate the fact that I will have to agree with the author of the following quote but he has summarized the issue clearly.

Everyone seems to take it for granted that if Muslims are offended, they will murder innocent people, and that instead of calling that irrational violence what it is, we should take pains not to offend Muslims, and blame those causing the alleged offense to the Muslims for the irrational violence.
-Source

Freedom of expression is non-negotiable. PERIOD.

In reason:
-FA

On Islamophobia II.

There is no such thing as Islamophobia. Bigotry and racism exist, of course—and they are evils that all well-intentioned people must oppose. And prejudice against Muslims or Arabs, purely because of the accident of their birth, is despicable. But like all religions, Islam is a system of ideas and practices. And it is not a form of bigotry or racism to observe that the specific tenets of the faith pose a special threat to civil society. Nor is it a sign of intolerance to notice when people are simply not being honest about what they and their co-religionists believe.

-Sam Harris

“Under the doctrine of state multiculturalism, we have encouraged different cultures to live separate lives, apart from each other and the mainstream,” Cameron said during a panel discussion attended by German Chancellor Angela Merkel. “We have failed to provide a vision of society to which they feel they want to belong.”

The Muslim share of the global population will rise primarily because of their relatively high birth rate, the large number of Muslims of childbearing age, and an increase in life expectancy in Muslim-majority countries, according to the report, “The Future of the Global Muslim Population.”

Conversion will play relatively little part in the increase, the report anticipates. It says little data is available on conversion, but what little there is suggests Islam loses as many adherents via conversion as it gains.

Religious belief is a function of demographics and geography. Truth, reason and evidence have nothing to do with it, mainly because religious thought lacks all of the above.

-FA

I get comments…that do not address the issue…

Here is a comment left in response to this post.

Mujahida:

FA: Don’t try to interpret Islam, because you lack understanding of it. You don’t know the Quran and Sunnah, so it is impossible for you to make statements like the one you made on Sheikh Ibn Uthaymin’s fatwa regarding women covering their faces. The world has seen enough of these “overnight experts on Islam” like you, who are keen on making statements on Islam that are based on nothing but lack of understanding and mere ignorance. Your statements only prove your own ignorance, lack of knowledge - nothing more.

If you are an atheist like your username suggests - OK, there is no compulsion in religion. Which means, no one shall be forced to submit to this religion. This implies that we give you your freedom of religion, then why can’t you do the same? If you want to be fair, why do you interfere in other people’s religious beliefs that you don’t even understand and then mock them? This is foolish.

1) Am I the only on that notices how this nonsensical rant does nothing to address the valid points made before? I have found this to be the pattern with most if not all believers.

One does not have to be an “expert” in nonsense to be able to identify it as such.

2) When a statement is clear in itself, what would preclude others from commenting on it? I’m sorry but secularists like myself will never bow down to religious censure. Not now, not ever.

3) If there is no compulsion in religion, what does Islam say should be done with apostates? So much for “no compulsion”.

4) Where have I limited the freedom of religion of others? Freedom of expression does not limit anyone’s freedom of belief. Muslims truly have the right to profess their myth and superstitions, the same right I have to point  them out as such. What is truly foolish is to try and censure people in the name of religious freedom. That is truly asinine. Thankfully I live in the US and not the Islamic Republic of Pakistan where blasphemy is a victimless crime punishable by death.

And Muslims where saying something about no compulsion in religion? Can anyone hear what was it over the deafening sound of the actions of Muslims all over the world?

In reason:
-FA

A Muslim imam who lectures on non-violence and advises the German government on interfaith issues has been arrested in Germany for beating up his wife: Sheikh Abu Adam, 40, is now on remand in Munich while his wife, 31, is being guarded by police: she was allegedly assaulted so badly that she suffered a broken nose and shoulder and numerous cuts and bruises. Media reports claimed the woman, who has borne one of his ten children, wanted to live a more ‘western’ lifestyle and was allegedly attacked after telling her husband. The police said they received a call from a lawyer hired by the victim. Adam is alleged to have shouted a verse from the Koran at his wife as he beat her. The line said: 'Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. 'As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.' The imam is said to have refused to let police officers into his home, but they forced their way past him because they feared the woman’s life was in danger.

I’m thinking of making this a weekly series that shows how women are mistreated in the name of Islam. Beliefs are important when actions are involved. Just where the rubber meets the road. And that is what I will try to show.

In reason:
-FA