WASHINGTON—Following the publication of the image above, in which the most cherished figures from multiple religious faiths were depicted engaging in a lascivious sex act of considerable depravity, no one was murdered, beaten, or had their lives threatened, sources reported Thursday.

The image of the Hebrew prophet Moses high-fiving Jesus Christ as both are having their erect penises vigorously masturbated by Ganesha, all while the Hindu deity anally penetrates Buddha with his fist, reportedly went online at 6:45 p.m. EDT, after which not a single bomb threat was made against the organization responsible, nor did the person who created the cartoon go home fearing for his life in any way. Though some members of the Jewish, Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist faiths were reportedly offended by the image, sources confirmed that upon seeing it, they simply shook their heads, rolled their eyes, and continued on with their day.

It actually took less than 5 minutes. And i got called something much worse. LOL!!
Here is my response @ eminery:
Actually i dont have to do anything. At all. That does not make one an asshole. Now, calling people names for not conforming to a nonsensical concept of “respect” might make u one though…
In reason:-FA 

It actually took less than 5 minutes. And i got called something much worse. LOL!!

Here is my response @ eminery:

Actually i dont have to do anything. At all. That does not make one an asshole. Now, calling people names for not conforming to a nonsensical concept of “respect” might make u one though…

In reason:

This volume rejects the notion that Islam’s sacred text is error free and cannot be critically evaluated. The study of the Koran must develop and mature. Scholars of Islam are of course familiar with the book’s many errors and contradictions, but these inherent flaws have rarely been revealed to a wider public. “The Origins of the Koran” is an attempt to remedy this deficiency by bringing together classic critical essays which raise key issues surrounding Islam’s holy book.

Response etc…

Yes, in countries like Afghanistan, being a pedophile is allowed but in countries like Iran, an Islamic country, it’s a crime. It’s considered to be rape - which will result into a death sentence, NOT for the victim, though but rather the person committing the crime.

And Muslims in the West (at least some) do not approve of polygamy and do not wear hijabs or whatever other differences one might point out. Still I think you missed the point completely. See point 8 on my FAQ here:


If there is one thing I have realized, you can never argue with an atheist as they will always: deny, deny, deny (no offense)

Deny what? On the contrary I affirm that:

1) All religions are myth and superstition.

2) That polygamy is an affront to women no matter where, when or how.

3) That pedophilia is unacceptable anywhere and everywhere.

4) That the solution to these problems can only be found in reason,logic and the requirement of evidence to justify beliefs and actions. It will never be found in religious moderation since moderation is just a a few verse interpretations away from fundamentalism.

But in a way, I can see why. Honestly, I don’t blame you.

For example:

I have had many Christians tell me that Jesus was the son of God, God himself and a holy spirit and that he died for my sins, yada yada.

And I hate that. I don’t believe that Jesus was the son of God or that he died for my sins as the story in the bible does not make sense to me.

Same thing with me. But unlike you I don’t make an exception with Islam. Or any other religious belief.

While I believe strongly in religion, I also believe in science. Scientifically, there is only one way to make a child and the idea of God having sex with a mere human is not only disgusting but something that doesn’t make sense. As well as the idea of Jesus dying for our sins. If he really was crucified and he died of our sins, what’s the point then of being on Earth? Why not just directly go to heaven instead of going through all that trouble? Sorry for the rambling, by the way.

I agree 100%.

So while I do not agree with your views, I can see why you believe that way.

I can see why you reject the ideas of religion, as I myself reject the ways of Christianity and Judaism as well.

It has been said that:

When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen F Roberts.

It seems you understand the concept. What I don’t understand is how can you ignore the implications of such.

So take care and have a nice day.

Thank you. You too.

Thank you for the well put response.

Thank you for the reaching out and making your viewpoints know.
In reason:

A response to the response to my response…

My answers in bold.

-beautifu-l answered you:


Thank you very much for your response.

Your are welcome.

Even if Islam or any other religon did not exist, there would still be chaos in the world. There are thousands of pedophiles in the world and yet they are not blamed on their religon.

True. No one said all evil comes from religion. But that does not excuse the evil things that do come from it (or that are justified by it) nor does it liberate us from the responsibility of rejecting and fighting such. And yes, we do prosecute pedophiles legally. Sadly in Islamic countries religion protects such abominable conduct. Just like the Catholic clergy has done all over the world.

You need to realize that people use religon has a excuse.

Or as the following of divine commands. If god told you to sacrifice your first and only born child, would you do it? If the answer is no then, was Abraham wrong? If the answer is yes, how would that be different from god telling you to fly a plane into a skyscraper killing all inside? Would you do it? Yes? No? Why?

Polygamy is only allowed in Islam with the wife’s permission and believe it or not many women ALLOW and SUPPORT their husband getting a second wife.

And you think that makes it ok? Really? You reminded me of the following quote I posted not too long ago on this blog: “When you are born a woman in Afghanistan you’re taught to hate yourself”. How sad that religion, in your case, blinds you to such issues as equality and justice as it applies TO YOUR OWN GENDER.

Yes, the Prophet did have multiple wives but Prophet Mohammad was not the only one. Many Jewish and Christian Prophets have many wives so they could have heirs and spread the word of God.

And you think that justifies treating women as baby factories so “they could have heirs and spread the word of God”? Really? The “prophet” was wrong for doing as such, just as wrong these other Jewish and Christian “prophets”. And let’s not talk about slavery as it relates to the Abrahamic religions. It gets even worse. I wonder what other “justifications” (more like excuses) can the religious like you come up with. Don’t you see that the same renunciation of logic you use in defense of polygamy is the same one other believers in your own religion use to defend pedophilia, and suicide bombings among many other evils?

Prophet Mohammad married mostly widowed women. He would take care of them by giving them money, food, a home. He took care of their children and made sure that they had the best life possible.

I donate to charities that help widowed women and children in Africa. I don’t have to marry them, much less have sex with them. I don’t pay for sex. Much less trying to disguise such payments as “charity”. That is so despicable and misogynistic that it escapes description.

Islam is not the main reason for the blood shed in the Middle East. The West is.

Sure, because the Shia and the Sunni started to kill each other just a few years ago. Right? Because the Jews (believing they have a divine land deed to Palestine) and the Arabs have always been peaceful throughout history till recently. Right? All these conflicts predate the west. And that is just fact.

Who gave Saddam weapons to kill millions of Iraqis and Iranians? The West

I don’t condone violence in any way, shape or form. But the point is this: Muslims killing other Muslims. Where the weapons come from makes no difference. Is like blaming the bullet for the murder instead of the person that pulled the trigger.

Who supports Israel’s terror on the Palestinians and gives Israel millions of dollars? The West

Who supports Palestinian suicide bombers and gives terrorist groups the means to execute such operations? Islamic organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah. And your point is? Again, the Palestinian-Israeli conflict predates the West. Again, study your history first.

Who did Osama Bin Laden used to work for? The West. In fact he used to be an ex Cia agent.

Bin Laden fought against the Soviets. “Working” for the West? Not so much. More like the enemy of my enemy is my friend type of deal. Fighting the Soviets who were invading Afghanistan. Law of unintended consequences I guess. The fact of the matter is that when the terrorists hit the towers their last words were “Allahu Akbhar”. Their expressed intentions were clear. Look them up.

All of the dictators in the world are because of the West.

Sure. Because the Iranian theocracy is a West created and established system. Because the cutting of hands for stealing, stoning for adultery and death for apostasy (as established in Sharia Law) is all the West’s doing. How the Saudis treat women or how they act in Indonesia is all due to the West. Because there were no dictators before what we called the modern West existed. Right?

And for one reason only - oil.

Sure. That is why invading Iraq was such a great idea an oil right now is at one dollar per gallon. Right? The cheapest in history no doubt.

If there were no oil in the West, there would be no hate against Muslims.

I don’t know about hate. I don’t hate Muslims. But I can tell you that the legitimate critiques I make in this blog are not dependent on oil. They are environmentally responsible. :-) Nor can they be construed as hate in any way, shape or form.

Ironically, all of the Muslim terrorists began the EXACT SAME time when oil was discovered, which was like 100 years ago.

Check your history. There is nothing more terrorizing than Sharia law (right next to the laws in the Old Testament). It predates oil btw. Just so you know.

And even so, are you justifying suicide bombings? I personally prefer the Gandhi/MLK method of effecting change.

The fact of the matter is that there are no suicide Jainist terrorists. The more radical you become as a Jainist the more peaceful and non violent you become. The same cannot be said of Islam. Any idea why?

In Islam, killing one person is killing the world. Suicide bombing is not allowed. Whoever commits suicide, for WHICHEVER reason, even in the name of “Allah”, will spend forever in the fires of hell.

As you interpret it. Some “scholars” using the same texts you believe to be holy have arrived to a different conclusion. So different that the result of suicide in the service of god is nothing less that a whole bunch of virgins (truly a more misogynistic depiction of heaven you will not find). The fact of the matter is that such texts are not holy and we should not depend on them to know what is right or wrong.

Look, fundamentalist are not crazy. They are not any less crazy than the moderates. Remember that moderate dogma is as equally unsupported by evidence as the extremist kind. The difference only lies in the terrible behavioral outcomes of one in comparison with the other.

The solution to those behavioral outcomes can only come from rejecting irrationality and promoting evidence on all fronts. Moderates don’t get a free pass. Fact is that moderation can and does breed extremism because both moderates and extremists share the same irrational mindset. It is not in atheist conventions where radicalization occurs, but in moderate mosques and churches all around the globe. Have you asked yourself why?

For more on this topic check out point 8 on my FAQ.

Please don’t think that all Muslims are terrorist.

Never said so. Never even thought that is the case.

I hope one day you will see Islam for the religion it truly is - not as religion of terror.

I see all religions for what they are. A rejection of reason and an affirmation of superstition. We have seen its effects. humanity has seen it for thousands of years now. 

Have a wonderful day.

You too.

May you and your family be blessed.

In reason always:

In a conversation with a federal informant, Ferdaus allegedly explained how in ancient times, God uses natural disasters to punish evil civilizations, and he would use them today. “For us, we’ve gotta do that,” he said, according to the affidavit. “Allah has given us the privilege … he punishes them by our hand. We’re the ones.” Ferdaus is a U.S. citizen who graduated from Northeastern University graduate with a degree in physics, according to the U.S. Attorney for Massachusetts.

The previous reminds me of the following quote:

"Given the degree to which religious ideas are still sheltered from criticism in every society, it is actually possible for a person to have the economic and intellectual resources to build a nuclear bomb — and to believe that he will get 72 virgins in paradise. And yet, despite abundant evidence to the contrary, liberals continue to imagine that Muslim terrorism springs from economic despair, lack of education and American militarism.

I don’t know how many more engineers and architects need to blow themselves up, fly planes into buildings or saw the heads off of journalists before this fantasy will dissipate. The truth is that there is every reason to believe that a terrifying number of the world’s Muslims now view all political and moral questions in terms of their affiliation with Islam. This leads them to rally to the cause of other Muslims no matter how sociopathic their behavior. This benighted religious solidarity may be the greatest problem facing civilization and yet it is regularly misconstrued, ignored or obfuscated by liberals.”

-Sam Harris

lowkeycee asked:

Just to clarify; I don't know what you do in you're daily life, you're very right. I didn't mean "you" in a personal sense but as more of an object way of referring to the broader public who always seem to have something to say about 'those people over there'.

I think what you're missing is that a lot people in the Middle East are uneducated, especially in places like remote mountains of Iran/Afghanistan/Pakistan. Being a believer doesn't make you stupid, I never stated that nor can I see how you could come to that conclusion from me simply stating that the educated Muslim, for the most part, wouldn't be expected to believe in Sharia Law because they are educated.

Anywho, my broader point was that the "state" of the Middle East at the time when, say, al Qaeda and the Taliban were able to come into power, and flourish, was created by, not religion, but global powers and their greed. America, and their selective aid to different countries, (like Iran who were being annihilation by Iraq; during the time Russians had invaded Afghanistan. All the while "democratic" Monarchies were being raised around the region, which we backed) created the reason why a quaker won't strap a bomb to his/her back but a very poor young man from one of these countries would.

I'm just pointing out that the reasons why things are the way they "are" isn't because a few rich and educated leaders of the 'jihadist' movement, as people love to put it, in my opinion Western Powers created this situation. Tis all.

Comments by paragraph:

1) It is not so much that the broader public seem to have something to say about ‘those people over there’. It is much more to the fact that there is no such thing as ‘over there’ anymore. We live in a global village where the actions in one corner of the planet impact the rest of its inhabitants.

For more details go here.

2) If belief in Sharia Law is the mark of the uneducated, why would someone else not be justified in asserting that belief in Islam suffers from the same lack of education?

To label what you personally consider to be unsavory in Islam as ‘lack of education’ is to the true believer a lack of true faith on your part. Personally I think that intelligent people can and do believe irrational things all the time. Religion is just one example. To falsely label it as ignorance is to excuse the real problem which is belief in things that have no evidence of being true in the first place.

3) Still in Tibet, where China has committed abuses and crimes that rival and even surpass those you ascribe to the “Western Powers”, there is no such thing as a Buddhist suicide bomber. Why?

Do you really believe that religion has nothing to do with it? Really? Really?

4) A victim mentality that excuses or ignores one of the root causes of religious terrorism will never lead us out of the violent vicious circle we experience today.

Again, no group of people (be it tribe, nation or country) has been negatively affected by becoming more reasonable.

Take care.
In reason:


"This was never about pissing off Muslims.  This has always been about  standing in solidarity with everyone who wants to draw such an image —  political cartoonists, the people behind South Park — but are forbidden from doing it.  The extremists can’t attack everyone, right?
So, once again, I’m asking you all to draw an image of Muhammad. It doesn’t need to portray Muhammad in a negative way.  Clever and  funny images are far more effective.  Stick figures are enormously  popular.  Be creative.  Be brave.”
(via Friendly Atheist » A Sequel to Draw Muhammad Day)

"This was never about pissing off Muslims. This has always been about standing in solidarity with everyone who wants to draw such an image — political cartoonists, the people behind South Park — but are forbidden from doing it. The extremists can’t attack everyone, right?

So, once again, I’m asking you all to draw an image of Muhammad. It doesn’t need to portray Muhammad in a negative way. Clever and funny images are far more effective. Stick figures are enormously popular. Be creative. Be brave.”

(via Friendly Atheist » A Sequel to Draw Muhammad Day)