sungyak-deactivated20130430 asked:

"A reasoned morality is more than enough. As explained in past conversations." I don't recall this explanation ever being defended. In fact, if I recall correctly, in the last conversation we had you simply stopped responding. You can't expect these sorts of broad stroke statements can be considered a sound defense of humanistic ethics.

1) I gave plenty of examples. You never provided any link to continue the discussion since you stated that the comment section of my tumblr was to inadequate to continue on.

2) There is no more broad evidence-lacking statement than asserting an “objective morality” based on the “character” of “god”. You have yet to show evidence for a god, to talk about what can be derived from it is like discussion the mating and eating habits of bigfoot. Note that there is just as much evidence for the christian god that there is for bigfoot.

3) Last but not least i would like to repeat a key point in this discussion:

A reasoned morality is more than enough. If you think we can only know that genocide is evil because god’s “nature” absolutely defines it as so then you have a big problem when your god not only permitted slavery but commanded and enabled genocide*. Then again, Christians are not know for being consistent in their myths.

For all the objections anyone can come up with in regards to humanism and reasoned morality one thing is obvious, morality has nothing to do nor is it remotely dependent on a god, the bible and much less Christianity. On the contrary, it is reason and not god the reason that today slavery is considered evil, women do not have to marry their rapist, gays are not killed (at least in the US) and no one has to be stoned to death for picking sticks on the sabbath. It is science and not religion what ended the CATHOLIC middle ages, inquisition and all. Again, what could be more obvious than this?

In reason:

-FA

*Just one verse of many will suffice: 1 Samuel 15:2-3

0) Search the “christian”, “god”, “religion” tags. If there is  propaganda in tumblr and out IRL, at least in the USA, is mostly  christian. Talking snakes and all. There is no bigger propaganda job than the christian religion. Just see how Catholics lie about condoms and gays while protecting pedophile priests. No thanks. Reality invalidates your argument.
1) Awesome!! Skepticblog is great. You might want to check out The  Skeptics Guide to the Universe. Good stuff. Hopefully one day the  skeptic mindset, which is to say reality > fantasy, will break though  all the myth and superstitions that religions instill.
Good  thing I never pretended to have superior “content” than any other blog,  webpage or even twitter. Hence I take no offense on your misguided  comment. I love when Christians get all passive aggressive. LOL!!! Jesus would be proud if he were real.
2) Atheists does not claim “god” is evil. The comment is made for  the sake of argument to show that even if one where to assume such a  thing, the whole idea of a good god does not correlate with reality.  Again, the universe behaves as it would if a god did not exist. At least  a good god.
3) To define evil one does not have to subscribe to “objective  morality”. As I remember this was debunked before in our conversations.
4) To say that “atheism assumes God in its complaint against him” is  ridiculous. You simply did not understand the point that was being made.  (See #2 above again for details).
5) We can objectively define  the god of the bible as evil without the need to resort to any absolute  moral standard, much less a made up concept as a god. A reasoned  morality is more than enough. As explained in past conversations. If you  think we can only know that genocide is evil because god’s “nature”  absolutely defines it as so then you have a big problem when your god not only permitted slavery  but commanded and enabled genocide. Then again, Christians are not know  for being consistent in their myths. How could they be? The evidence  lacking belief itself is the problem. Of course.
6) At the end of the day it is a good thing that there is no  evidence that the god of the bible, the christian god, exists.  If it did then the only conclusion is that he is either evil or that he  does not care. You have still not made your pick, which is it?
In reason: -FA

0) Search the “christian”, “god”, “religion” tags. If there is propaganda in tumblr and out IRL, at least in the USA, is mostly christian. Talking snakes and all. There is no bigger propaganda job than the christian religion. Just see how Catholics lie about condoms and gays while protecting pedophile priests. No thanks. Reality invalidates your argument.

1) Awesome!! Skepticblog is great. You might want to check out The Skeptics Guide to the Universe. Good stuff. Hopefully one day the skeptic mindset, which is to say reality > fantasy, will break though all the myth and superstitions that religions instill.

Good thing I never pretended to have superior “content” than any other blog, webpage or even twitter. Hence I take no offense on your misguided comment. I love when Christians get all passive aggressive. LOL!!! Jesus would be proud if he were real.

2) Atheists does not claim “god” is evil. The comment is made for the sake of argument to show that even if one where to assume such a thing, the whole idea of a good god does not correlate with reality. Again, the universe behaves as it would if a god did not exist. At least a good god.

3) To define evil one does not have to subscribe to “objective morality”. As I remember this was debunked before in our conversations.

4) To say that “atheism assumes God in its complaint against him” is ridiculous. You simply did not understand the point that was being made. (See #2 above again for details).

5) We can objectively define the god of the bible as evil without the need to resort to any absolute moral standard, much less a made up concept as a god. A reasoned morality is more than enough. As explained in past conversations. If you think we can only know that genocide is evil because god’s “nature” absolutely defines it as so then you have a big problem when your god not only permitted slavery but commanded and enabled genocide. Then again, Christians are not know for being consistent in their myths. How could they be? The evidence lacking belief itself is the problem. Of course.

6) At the end of the day it is a good thing that there is no evidence that the god of the bible, the christian god, exists. If it did then the only conclusion is that he is either evil or that he does not care. You have still not made your pick, which is it?

In reason:
-FA

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Religion nothing more than pure myth and superstition. Dangerous to the extreme. No thanks. Not now, not ever.